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governor john sununu, former governor of new hampshire. nice to talk with you. >> thank you. >>> next, we'll hear from the obama camp on this expectations game. what's at stake for the president? the dnc chairwoman will be here. >>> plus a judge is set to rule on whether a voter i.d. law that could swing a state that hasn't been a swing state but maybe put it is back in if it's put into place. and ballots are now being cast in another key battleground state. up to 35 states voting now. >>> today's trivia question. which politician has participated in the most general election presidential debates? tweet me the answer @ chucktodd. we'll be right back. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper catego
governor john sununu, former governor of new hampshire. nice to talk with you. >> thank you. >>> next, we'll hear from the obama camp on this expectations game. what's at stake for the president? the dnc chairwoman will be here. >>> plus a judge is set to rule on whether a voter i.d. law that could swing a state that hasn't been a swing state but maybe put it is back in if it's put into place. and ballots are now being cast in another key battleground state. up to 35...
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john stanton, "buzz feed's" d.c. bureau chief. you do great work. >> pleasure to be here. >>> all right. are you a college student? do you know any college students? do you have any sense of how college students will vote this year if they vote? a bunch of political vigilantes who know how college students are likely to vote this year have figured out how to stop students from doing it. it is a very simple strategy and it is very stupid, and that's next. >>> i waited, i voted. >>> i waited, i voted. that's all that matters. >> at college, this was not your ordinary all nighter. >> i'm willing to wait as long as it takes for me to vote. >> reporter: hours after the polls were scheduled to close in ohio -- >> i've been here since 4:30. >> reporter: hundreds of student, professors and neighbors were still stuck in line, some here for more than ten hours. >> i'm not going to leave. i'm just going to make sure that every vote counts. >> reporter: why the wait? for 1,300 voters here, just 2 ballot boots available. >> people were voting
john stanton, "buzz feed's" d.c. bureau chief. you do great work. >> pleasure to be here. >>> all right. are you a college student? do you know any college students? do you have any sense of how college students will vote this year if they vote? a bunch of political vigilantes who know how college students are likely to vote this year have figured out how to stop students from doing it. it is a very simple strategy and it is very stupid, and that's next. >>> i...
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congressman alan west, senator john mccain both on cnbc. here we go. >> i know. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data. correct? >> well, absolutely. >> frankly, i am not enough of an economist to question exactly what those numbers are. our discussion about the warren act that just took place where there are blatant violations of the law, i wouldn't put anything past this administration. >> you know, these are sitting members of congress. >> yeah. >> alan west won, of course. we know his party. he's very conservative nap said, john mccain. are you surprised by his comments? >> i'm very surprised by his comment. all of those comments, they're not just deeply irresponsible, but without a shred of evidence they are casting doubt about a very important number in our economy. now, if you understand the way the bureau of labor statistics collects data, and i used to work for the department of labor, and i used to work for
congressman alan west, senator john mccain both on cnbc. here we go. >> i know. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data. correct? >> well, absolutely. >> frankly, i am not enough of an economist to question exactly what those numbers are. our discussion about the warren act that just took place where there are blatant violations of the law, i...
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bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable position on afghanistan. they have been unwilling and unable to hold up that side of debate and so regardless of what it means for the candidates as a country we are deprived of a national discussion about a war we are in. 70,000 american families having skin in the game right now. we have -- that's part of the reason i'm looking forward to the debates. some ways sort of a post-policy campaign. and you can't do that in a debate, at least unless the debate is really bad. >> this is -- this is billed
bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to...
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john stanton, "buzz feed's" d.c. bureau chief. you do great work. >> pleasure to be here. >>> all right. are you a college student? do you know any college students? do you have any sense of how college students will vote this year if they vote? a bunch of political vigilantes who know how college students are likely to vote this year have figured out how to stop students from doing it. it is a very simple strategy and it is very stupid, and that's next. oh, hey alex. just picking up some, brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to have a backup plan, in case i get hit by a meteor. wow, your hair looks great. didn't realize they did photoshop here. hey, good call on those mugs. can't let 'em see what you're drinking. you know, i'm glad we're both running a nice, clean race. no need to get nasty. here's your "honk if you had an affair with taylor" yard sign. looks good. [ male announcer ] fedex office. now save 50% on banners. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1
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the president had the one on one with john mccain in his last debates. is there any similarity before we talk about the differences, there any similarity in their style that you've noted? >> well, i think both of them in the past have benefited by the very fact that the people they were debating with often seen themselves to be a little overroute, to seem to be caught up in things and not quite under control. and i think the test tonight is, that both of them will face somebody that's usually pretty controlled in the way they come at things. the last time that president obama was in debates like this, it was his confidence, his -- in a sense quiet reserve in some ways in contrast to an excitability that we saw in mccain. other than the absence of emotion can be very devastating as it with you to dukakis in the debate against bush. part is how the real character comes through in terms of suggesting their ability to be presidential. >> and what do you -- >> shown to be. >> what do you see as the major difference in the two men that could be that revealing
the president had the one on one with john mccain in his last debates. is there any similarity before we talk about the differences, there any similarity in their style that you've noted? >> well, i think both of them in the past have benefited by the very fact that the people they were debating with often seen themselves to be a little overroute, to seem to be caught up in things and not quite under control. and i think the test tonight is, that both of them will face somebody that's...
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it's john sununu. there's not much to it. obviously obama's not lazy and disengaged. >> he left a lot of facts on the side of the road last night. the people sitting at home were screaming at their tv sets. we can't ignore that. >> you can disagree with what he's doing on these things whether foreign policy or domestic but he's not lazy or disengaged. we're overlooking the simple fact obama is not that good a debater. he wasn't that great a debater in the democratic primary. he did fine against john mccain but it wasn't acceptable. last night he clearly lost. one thing i'm hearing from democratic sources is he didn't end up with one of those moments that's going to haunt him. >> no, i don't think so. he doesn't lose any supporters and he certainly recovers from this, but we can't have any more like that. i say that. sam stein, e.j. dionne, great to have you with us tonight. >>> next, we debunk romney's $5 trillion tax lie with david k. johnston. stay with us. >>> mitt romney tried hard last night to make up ground with middle
it's john sununu. there's not much to it. obviously obama's not lazy and disengaged. >> he left a lot of facts on the side of the road last night. the people sitting at home were screaming at their tv sets. we can't ignore that. >> you can disagree with what he's doing on these things whether foreign policy or domestic but he's not lazy or disengaged. we're overlooking the simple fact obama is not that good a debater. he wasn't that great a debater in the democratic primary. he did...
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bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry was a strong debater. i don't see incumbent see aas a factor in these. >> that's fair. there's a multitude of factors that go into success in debates. the challenger in the first debate seems to perform better. one is the person the word has known for three and a half years as the president, and the other is a person they're geg to know. now this makes them equal. that's enormous and the psychological effect is hard to understatement. >> when i was running for congress, as the challenger it was hard to get the incumbent to debate me at all. that's the case for a lot of challenger candidates. "snl" had an amazing take on a potential trouble spot for the president in the debates. let's take a look. >> surely someone has a job that wasn't around in 2008. anyone? there he is. what do you do, sir? >> i chase raccoons out of foreclosed homes. it's great because all those homes have people in them a few years ago. >> good for you. staying outdoors. probably a lot of perks, right? >> yeah. sometimes i eat them rac
bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry was a strong debater. i don't see incumbent see aas a factor in these. >> that's fair. there's a multitude of factors that go into success in debates. the challenger in the first debate seems to perform better. one is the person the word has known for three and a half years as the president, and the other is a person they're geg to know. now this makes them equal. that's enormous and the psychological effect is hard to understatement. >> when i...
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. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market dropped over 300 points. >> fear that the country could be entering in one of the most serious recessions in decades, led by wall street's 700-point sell-off. >> now four years later, the president who faced john mccain in those debates and beat him faces his new republican challenger for the first time. >> i'm looking forward to head to head. >> an mirror image of '08, a campaign is chaotic mash. new issues, new controversies, every day. the polls are bad for romney and good for obama in the swing states. but the national numbers are as tight as they get. the primaries are over, the conventions are over, but the debates, the home stretch, starts right now. >>> all
. >> four years ago, barack obama and john mccain faced off in a first debate that was nearly canceled when the republican suspended his campaign because of the meltdown on wall street. the day of their second debate, the stock market dropped 500 points. >> now the troubles are spreading. the market took another dive today, and there are some big names now involved. >> reporter: the day of the third debate, the stock market dropped over 300 points. >> fear that the...
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in 2008 john mccain betrayed his frustration when he referred to barack obama as "that one." let's listen. >> your bill on the floor of the senate, loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies and it was sponsored by busch and cheney. you know who voted for it? might never know. that one. you know who voted against it? me. >> where did you come up with that phrase, that one? what will be the clues tonight to tell us in real time who's winning. ste steve kornacki, co-host of "the cycle." you start with your biggest clue. you've said already, i've seen on my screen, who's winning the definition, meaning who's defining the debate in their terms. how does that go? explain. >> romney has always wanted this race to be a referendum. he's made a mistake because people have of telegraphing their big question, do you want another four years like the last four years? if the president wants a strong comeback, he can pull the debate into what he's done the last few months, the ground of choice. who stands up for the middle class, who favors the few, build prosperity by strengt
in 2008 john mccain betrayed his frustration when he referred to barack obama as "that one." let's listen. >> your bill on the floor of the senate, loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies and it was sponsored by busch and cheney. you know who voted for it? might never know. that one. you know who voted against it? me. >> where did you come up with that phrase, that one? what will be the clues tonight to tell us in real time who's winning. ste steve...
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john stanton, "buzz feed's" d.c. bureau chief. you do great work. >> pleasure to be here. >>> all right. are you a college student? do you know any college students? do you have any sense of how college students will vote this year if they vote? a bunch of political vigilantes who know how college students are likely to vote this year have figured out how to stop students from doing it. it is a very simple strategy and it is very stupid, and that's next. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 in their respective tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lipper categories. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 lower than spdr tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and even lower than vanguard. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 that means with schwab, tdd#: 1-80
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bush conspiracy theory, of course, was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate, when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him the answers through an earpiece -- rather by bringing an illegal crib sheet on to the debate stage with him. you see, previous debate rules have set out very clearly that, quote, no props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by any candidate, and, yet, have a loom at this damning evidence. this is at the very beginning of the debate on wednesday night and as you'll be able to see clearly here what is that in your pocket? mr. romney very clearly pulls something from his right pocket and he pops it on to the podium in front of
bush conspiracy theory, of course, was always that john kerry absolutely destroyed george w. bush in that debate, when bush was supposedly wearing a listening device. so if he was wearing a listening device whoever was supposedly whispering in the president's ear was not whispering things that helped him. that's always the part i didn't understand. but the 2012 version of that theory now is that mitt romney cheated in the debate against president obama this week not by having somebody feed him...
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john heilemann made a good point, tweeted about the consultants say watch with saundoff. there was in the body language, in the way they engaged, it was -- >> neither connected to the material or the moment. then you have the contrast of mitt romney who seemed loose and in the moment. >> he had the least to lose. mitt romney comes into the game, so to speak, not expected to do well, back against the wall, and therefore he's free to throw darts, you know, and see what lands. but the point is this as well, obama has just been subject to the fox news treatment of angry black man again. le a lest we pretend, i can't come off too vigorous became it will be like i'm an angry black man, mitt romney will be a vigorously engaged man able to play to his strengths. >> we're going to unpack that thesis of the angry black man and what the president did or did not do. we have to go to break. we have to let savannah go. >> it's dinner time for me. its cocktail hour for nbc's savannah guthrie. >> coming up, we'll get into governor romney's tax plan disco, what a difference a day makes. f
john heilemann made a good point, tweeted about the consultants say watch with saundoff. there was in the body language, in the way they engaged, it was -- >> neither connected to the material or the moment. then you have the contrast of mitt romney who seemed loose and in the moment. >> he had the least to lose. mitt romney comes into the game, so to speak, not expected to do well, back against the wall, and therefore he's free to throw darts, you know, and see what lands. but the...
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early voting favored barack obama over john mccain by 18 points. 58% to 40%. this year, 27 states and washington, d.c., will have early in-person voting prior to election day. the campaigns are estimating an early voting participation at around 40% this year. two out of every five ballots will be filled out before november 6th in this election cycle. today is truly the beginning of the end of the presidential election. but one candidate is in much better position to take advantage of the new voting in this dynamic thing we call american democracy. here's a look at mitt romney's field offices in iowa. the romney camp pass 12 outposts across the hawkeye state. now take a look at president obama's operation. his field operation in iowa. the obama campaign has 66 of these outpost offices. the president's campaign has a 5 1/2-1 advantage over mitt romney when it comes to operation in iowa. these field offices are the lifeblood of presidential campaigns. this is where campaigns stage the get out to vote efforts and organize volunteers. today, "the new york times" re
early voting favored barack obama over john mccain by 18 points. 58% to 40%. this year, 27 states and washington, d.c., will have early in-person voting prior to election day. the campaigns are estimating an early voting participation at around 40% this year. two out of every five ballots will be filled out before november 6th in this election cycle. today is truly the beginning of the end of the presidential election. but one candidate is in much better position to take advantage of the new...
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john sun nu has a pension for provocation. they can defend that insult, but last night the president again had a very clear adult conversation with the american people about the circumstances we're in today. mitt romney, like the true used car salesman he is, was all over the lot and spinning tales all over the place. people aren't going to buy that lemon. >> supporters of the president, some are not happy today. they feel for example aalone on the $716 billion that romney accused the president of taking out of medicare, the president did not refute that. let me play this moment. it has a lot of people concerned. >> on medicare, for current retirees, he's cutting $716 billion from the program. now, he says by not overpaying hospitals and providers. actually, just going to them and saying, we're going to reduce the rate you're paid across the board. everybody gets a lower rate. that's not just going after places where there's abuse. they says we'll cut the rates. i can't new england how you cut medicare $716 billion for current
john sun nu has a pension for provocation. they can defend that insult, but last night the president again had a very clear adult conversation with the american people about the circumstances we're in today. mitt romney, like the true used car salesman he is, was all over the lot and spinning tales all over the place. people aren't going to buy that lemon. >> supporters of the president, some are not happy today. they feel for example aalone on the $716 billion that romney accused the...
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john, are you there in the spin room. as you know, the spinning begins before either candidate has spoken. we've seen both parties attempt to deflate expectations. but isn't the biggest challenge for mitt romney, not what he plans to say tonight, but how he explains what he's already said, in particular, his derision for 47% of the people in this country? >> reporter: certainly, martin, he's going to have to address that and try to diffuse that issue. look, this is an incredibly important event in the campaign. tens of millions of people will watch these two guys standing side by side. mitt romney is behind, but behind by three points. he could still win this race. he's got to figure out a way to both hurt obama, help himself, make credible arguments his economic plan will make the lives of 100% of americans better, and try to establish some connection with the american people he hasn't been able to do on far. it's a tall order. it's not impossible. >> well, thankfully, john, i'm near the department of theology here, so m
john, are you there in the spin room. as you know, the spinning begins before either candidate has spoken. we've seen both parties attempt to deflate expectations. but isn't the biggest challenge for mitt romney, not what he plans to say tonight, but how he explains what he's already said, in particular, his derision for 47% of the people in this country? >> reporter: certainly, martin, he's going to have to address that and try to diffuse that issue. look, this is an incredibly important...
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he also did it in john mccain's 2008 campaign. ahead of next week's debates, both sides have been lowering expectations. >> the president is, obviously, a very eloquent, gifted speaker. he'll do just fine. >> mitt romney has an advantage because he's been through 20 debates in the primaries oefrt the last year. >> barack obama is a very effective debater. >> we know governor romney is practicing for months. i think the invasion of normandy took less preparation than he's putting into the debates. >> i'm joined by the president of progress and former obama white house adviser and also with us is robert trainum. nera, you helped with hillary clinton's debate preps and you worked robert with with rick santorum and president bush. let's get to the heart of it, robert. both sides lowering expectations, but realistically how important is this debate for romney "nightly newmitt romney? >> it's very important. this is his second time to make an impression. the first time was during the republican convention. the second time is in a situat
he also did it in john mccain's 2008 campaign. ahead of next week's debates, both sides have been lowering expectations. >> the president is, obviously, a very eloquent, gifted speaker. he'll do just fine. >> mitt romney has an advantage because he's been through 20 debates in the primaries oefrt the last year. >> barack obama is a very effective debater. >> we know governor romney is practicing for months. i think the invasion of normandy took less preparation than he's...
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leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is more difficult. for the umpteenth time he has to introduce himself to the american people and erase all the impressions of the mitt romney we met earlier and reveal a coherent person, one voters can imagine as a leader. is this debate more romney against himself? critics paint him displaying this flaccid leadership. >> he has to present himself as a president who would represent all americans. he said that several times. he's practicing that debate line. here again, even when he engages with that comment, it reminds people of that 47% remark. you see him over the last couple of days. i think it was today there is an interview in the "denver post" where he seems to be softening his stances around immigration. here is a candidate looking at a huge deficit in some of these swing states, deficits among hispanics, deficits among women. he's got to
leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is more difficult. for the umpteenth time he has to introduce himself to the american people and erase all the impressions of the mitt romney we met earlier and reveal a coherent person, one voters can imagine as a leader. is this debate more romney against himself? critics...
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you know, ed, congressman john lewis was here in ohio just this past friday at a program i was the m.c. for him to talk about what happened to him on bloody sunday, he had an apple and orange and two books standing in the ready position just to have the right to vote. this is the least we can do in the state of ohio to show solidarity for poor folks and the middle class and for women and for elderly folks and students to show that we understand how we got over and our soul looks back and wonders how we got over and we are not going to let some republicans stop us from exercising our right to vote. we stand up for the middle class in this state and in this nation and we are standing strong for our foremothers and forefathers. that's why the early vote is so important and that's why i think that the vote early is going to be bigger and better than it was in 2008 because we're going to show the republicans there ain't no stopping us now because we're on the move. >> all right. ohio sate senator nina turner with us tonight from ohio. great to have you with us tonight. early voting starts t
you know, ed, congressman john lewis was here in ohio just this past friday at a program i was the m.c. for him to talk about what happened to him on bloody sunday, he had an apple and orange and two books standing in the ready position just to have the right to vote. this is the least we can do in the state of ohio to show solidarity for poor folks and the middle class and for women and for elderly folks and students to show that we understand how we got over and our soul looks back and...
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i knew for sure that john kerry won all three of his debates against george bush. but of course he didn't. this is a good time to think about what it means to win a debate. in high school and college debates there are judges to decide which debaters who actually won. those debates have real winners. winners who get real trophies. no one got a trophy but plenty of people guessed at who would have gotten a trophy. the question is they were debating for votes and those votes wouldn't be counted until next month. so all of the winner talk you have withbeen hearing is just guessing and all of the guessers have been wrong before. my guess is about who won debates have been wrong many times which is why it was so easy for me to resist guessing who one last night. you know court reporters are smarter about this. court reporters have seen high priced defense lawyers deliver brilliant closing arguments. court reporters don't even say who won. they wait, they wait hours sometimes days for the jury to vote and then tell them who won. court reporters see lawyers with the best a
i knew for sure that john kerry won all three of his debates against george bush. but of course he didn't. this is a good time to think about what it means to win a debate. in high school and college debates there are judges to decide which debaters who actually won. those debates have real winners. winners who get real trophies. no one got a trophy but plenty of people guessed at who would have gotten a trophy. the question is they were debating for votes and those votes wouldn't be counted...
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this is coming from a guy whose first campaign ad against barack obama presented a quote about john mccain and pretended that president obama was saying it about himself. they defended the ad as honest. romney is running on his business create. he says he created 100,000 jobs as the ce ork as bain. he claimed he had no involvement with managing bain after 1999. but wait a minute. sec filings show him as the ceo and sole stake holder in the company for three additional years. now during those years, what happened? thousands of people were laid off in the bain companies while mitt romney profited. speaking of bain, romney says he's going to get tough on china as president if he's elected. even though his recent tax returns show that he was making investment money all from chinese internet companies accused of stealing american content. he says president obama apologizes for america overseas even though not a single transcript ever shows him apologizing. when mitt romney had a chance to weigh in on the international incident, what did he do? he accused president obama of sympathizing with ame
this is coming from a guy whose first campaign ad against barack obama presented a quote about john mccain and pretended that president obama was saying it about himself. they defended the ad as honest. romney is running on his business create. he says he created 100,000 jobs as the ce ork as bain. he claimed he had no involvement with managing bain after 1999. but wait a minute. sec filings show him as the ceo and sole stake holder in the company for three additional years. now during those...
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john tower, what are you doing? >> i have nicholas. he's in london, england.
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let's start with john heilemann. john, what did you learn today? >> the jets are just hosed. >> oh, man. >> hosed. >> okay. >> it's terrible. what did you learn, mark? >> obama wins and the fiscal cliff is solved in november and december. that's what schumer said. >> that's good. what golden nugget will you take with you throughout the day? >> i learned that liz grod watching morns joe and she's a beautiful bride. married saturday. couldn't possibly look more beautiful. >> do you flow why she's smiling? >> she's smiling because she didn't work the overnights for about a week. >> she's in the trenches for us every day, does a great job. she had great day. she reports on saturday. now off on her honeymoon and she'll be back in a week or so. >> i'm so proud of you, liz. >> congratulations. what did you learn? >> that we need to talk about it every day and i think the headlines today drive that point home. >> our men and women in uniform that have been serving there now since the fall of 2001 have given their all, they've done a fantastic job. i'm so p
let's start with john heilemann. john, what did you learn today? >> the jets are just hosed. >> oh, man. >> hosed. >> okay. >> it's terrible. what did you learn, mark? >> obama wins and the fiscal cliff is solved in november and december. that's what schumer said. >> that's good. what golden nugget will you take with you throughout the day? >> i learned that liz grod watching morns joe and she's a beautiful bride. married saturday. couldn't...
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ryan just now on the laura engram radio show, saying this about afghanistan. >> that echos also what john mccain said on "morning joe" today. are they trying to change the skubts to get off -- subject to get off 47% and other missteps and perceived problems in their camp or see a real vulnerability here after benghazi in the way that the white house has handled this? >> if they see a real vulnerability andrea, it's not born out in the public data yet. look at all the data, that goes back months and months the one place where president obama has been strong is on foreign policy and his handling of terrorism. you can argue after benghazi and what's happened in the, you know, few weeks since what we've learned, maybe that's weakened somewhat, but i still think that this is an election decided on who do you think has the better skillset to move the economy forward? i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the deb
ryan just now on the laura engram radio show, saying this about afghanistan. >> that echos also what john mccain said on "morning joe" today. are they trying to change the skubts to get off -- subject to get off 47% and other missteps and perceived problems in their camp or see a real vulnerability here after benghazi in the way that the white house has handled this? >> if they see a real vulnerability andrea, it's not born out in the public data yet. look at all the data,...
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of course, the person who is the mock mitt romney, if you will, john kerry, senator john kerry of massachusetts, he also battle tested. he had his own experience in these debates in 2004. people forget he had a series of epic debates debating a republican governor of massachusetts who challenged him for his senate seat back in 1996. that was bill welles. so it's going to be intense, and as you mentioned, he leaves tomorrow, has one event on the ground when he leaves for nevada. then he goes to ground, training at altitude, because the debate is in the mile-high city of denver. but we don't expect to see much of him. he's going to be doing a lot of practicing for that debate wednesday night. >> this is president obama's first debate since 2008. governor romney had what seemed like 163 primary debates earlier this year. how confident are the president's advisers that he's not a tad rusty? >> reporter: you know, i think that that's something, a story line that they would like to promote. what we've seen, it's almost comica comical, to the extent we've seen both camps downplayings the expectations.
of course, the person who is the mock mitt romney, if you will, john kerry, senator john kerry of massachusetts, he also battle tested. he had his own experience in these debates in 2004. people forget he had a series of epic debates debating a republican governor of massachusetts who challenged him for his senate seat back in 1996. that was bill welles. so it's going to be intense, and as you mentioned, he leaves tomorrow, has one event on the ground when he leaves for nevada. then he goes to...
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he did a good job four years ago with john mccain. on the other hand, i think that mitt romney does a good job in format also. he's had a number of town hall meetings. both the republican primary and since. but he should expect president obama to be an effective communique' tore in a town hall type of setting. >> are you disappointed you won't be there? you came so close. >> no, no. i'm fortunate to be in the united states senate. i never thought i'd get there. it's a critical time for our country and one thing that came out tonight that was probably as important as the policy discussions is the fact that we need to figure out how to find the same ground. i think governor romney understands you got to find solutions. >> senator portman, thainch. >> good luck. >> thank you. >> all right, thanks to lawrence o'donnell for that great interview with senator rob portman, a sparring partner and an effective one. >>> previewing tomorrow's headlines, how will they cast round one of romney/obama. msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential
he did a good job four years ago with john mccain. on the other hand, i think that mitt romney does a good job in format also. he's had a number of town hall meetings. both the republican primary and since. but he should expect president obama to be an effective communique' tore in a town hall type of setting. >> are you disappointed you won't be there? you came so close. >> no, no. i'm fortunate to be in the united states senate. i never thought i'd get there. it's a critical time...
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you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to show the race tightening and the national numbers but not in the battleground states i think. one of the big reasons for that, one of the big underreported reasons for that is how the romney/ryan ticket has offended seniors. we've talked about how this ticket offended women, african-americans, hispanics. the big story is how they have offended seniors and how seniors have gone from the romney/ryan camp into the obama camp largely i think because of the ryan plan on medicare, and so that -- the 47% was poorly answered by ryan, but an equal weight around this campaign's neck is that medicare plan which is tur
you could imagine john mccain in 2008 saying, wait a second, that 47% is made up of veterans who have paid their debt to society with blood literally. it's made up of mostly working people, most of that 47% are working americans, working middle class, working poor. >> hard working who earn less than $30,000 a year. >> or even $40,000 or $50,000 and many of those -- many of that 47% is made up of seniors. you know, this network is going to have a new poll later today that's going to...
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. >> toby, in 2008, barack obama won 62% of the asian american vote compared to 35% for john mccain, according to the exit polls. is there any chance of that kind of a landside for president obama this time around, or is there too much of a juxtaposition between the immigration issue and the economy? >> no, i think it's very possible. i mean, there's certainly an old way and a new way of engaging voters and the president's campaign has certainly started very early, engaging asian american and pacific islanderers voters and he's also created a whole new sort of stage for asian americans in his administration. he's appointed more to the cabinet level, has record num r numbers in his administration, record number appointed to federal benches. and right now you see the romney campaign, they are trying to make inroads into this constituency, primarily by focusing on small business issues. and i think there's real choice in front of asian american voters right now. what we are seeing in all of our polling is that asian americans are most likely going to vote at levels that are even greater
. >> toby, in 2008, barack obama won 62% of the asian american vote compared to 35% for john mccain, according to the exit polls. is there any chance of that kind of a landside for president obama this time around, or is there too much of a juxtaposition between the immigration issue and the economy? >> no, i think it's very possible. i mean, there's certainly an old way and a new way of engaging voters and the president's campaign has certainly started very early, engaging asian...
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i'm john seigenthaler. >>> romney versus ryan, the divorce. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with mr. romney's divorce. why did he pick paul ryan for his running mate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and nights acting as if he's out there all alone, that he never hooked up with ryan in the first place. i get it. romney doesn't want to get dragged down by his political mate's push for getting rid of medicare. he acts like ryan has no hold on him, but it's not the way it works. romney has slowly gotten the word that the voter out there thought the two had things worked out, that romney and ryan were in this thing together. well, they're not. romney is dying. he can't stand being tied to ryan, and all that budget cutting baggage of his. for his part, ryan is feeling the taint of having a running mate who is unwilling to stand with him, unwilling to be his kind of politician. a conviction politician. so trouble in paradise. mitt's dying to be single again, so is rya
i'm john seigenthaler. >>> romney versus ryan, the divorce. let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start with mr. romney's divorce. why did he pick paul ryan for his running mate? certainly not for better or worse. mitt spends his days and nights acting as if he's out there all alone, that he never hooked up with ryan in the first place. i get it. romney doesn't want to get dragged down by his political mate's push for...
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mitt romney is now the next massachusetts guy who maybe was a flip-flopper in the past like john kerry. can he close the sale with the american people? this is a referendum on mitt romney all aalong. we already had a referendum on obama. it was the 2010 midterm elections. this is not about what happened in the next four years, but it's about who will do a better job for the next four years. romney needs to present something other than, jie, hasn't obama sucked? you cannot win like that. howard dean would be the democratic nominee and president of the united states if that was the case. you have to give people a reason to vote for you. >> steve, you make pay compelling argument there. the debates, perhaps, michael, the next opportunity and the last opportunity for mitt romney to make this case. both sides have elised memos. this is beth myers of the romney campaign. this is what she says in part. it's clear that president obama will use his ample rhett for cal gifts in debating experience at one end. we expect a 90-minute attack ad. david axelrod not to be outdone by the obama campaign.
mitt romney is now the next massachusetts guy who maybe was a flip-flopper in the past like john kerry. can he close the sale with the american people? this is a referendum on mitt romney all aalong. we already had a referendum on obama. it was the 2010 midterm elections. this is not about what happened in the next four years, but it's about who will do a better job for the next four years. romney needs to present something other than, jie, hasn't obama sucked? you cannot win like that. howard...
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john heilemann here. >> hey, john. >> you're making a very convincing and compelling case. why did the president not make the same case you're making this morning on stage against mitt romney last night? >> the president came to talk to the american people about his ideas and where we go as a country, john. there's going to be -- there will be more debates. and we have more of an opportunity in the next 30 days to continue to bring these facts to the attention of the american people. and i would just say to you and to your whole crew, because i know you have a powerful influence on the political scene. you guys have an obligation as well to check some of these allegations. everybody is very dazzled by the fact that mitt romney came in with some well-rehearsed lines. but now we have to sit back and say what is it exactly that he said, and is it true? i know andrea mitchell did a good fact check on your air about this tax issue and how bogus his claim was that he's not supporting a $5 trillion tax cut that he can't pay for. so all of these issues are going to be discussed ove
john heilemann here. >> hey, john. >> you're making a very convincing and compelling case. why did the president not make the same case you're making this morning on stage against mitt romney last night? >> the president came to talk to the american people about his ideas and where we go as a country, john. there's going to be -- there will be more debates. and we have more of an opportunity in the next 30 days to continue to bring these facts to the attention of the american...
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and still with us, john harris and ruth marcus. ruth, first to you, because you saw the performance last night and it had all of the feel of an incumbent president who has not been challenged who has been in the oval office, who didn't do enough debate preparation or maybe they weren't tough enough with him. >> well, i think one other thing might have been going on, which is that his goal was not to do himself any harm, maybe hi did himself harm by not being sharp enough. there was also, i think, some folks in the campaign believe this, a danger on the other end. this president does not do pit bull very well. remember, you're likable enough, hillary. he didn't want to come off as annoying, arrogant, dismissive, towards romney because he is in the driver's seat in terms of being ahead, even though slightly and narrowing in the polls. i think we did see today, chuck had it exactly right, a sharper crisper, more acerbic barack obama, and i suspect we'll see that in the next campaign. but i'm a little bit contrarian here. i thought the
and still with us, john harris and ruth marcus. ruth, first to you, because you saw the performance last night and it had all of the feel of an incumbent president who has not been challenged who has been in the oval office, who didn't do enough debate preparation or maybe they weren't tough enough with him. >> well, i think one other thing might have been going on, which is that his goal was not to do himself any harm, maybe hi did himself harm by not being sharp enough. there was also,...
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joining me now john hiel man and krystal ball. when i see him out at hoover dam today, i think we are going to hear some sort of rachel like ode to hoover dam in the debate and the power of federal infrastructure spending and what it can do to this country and the economy. >> i think you're absolutely right. that is the core message. it's we're in it together versus you're on your own. and to that point, mitt romney still has never really come up with a coherent explanation, because there isn't one, for his comments about the 47%. so as they're talking about the zingers he's been preparing for this debate and how he's been practicing for months, there's no verbal strik to get you out of that box. and there's also nothing you can do to avoid the fact that your positions have changed so much from the primary to now and back and forth. so that's one of the things that you have to look at. it's not just preparation and flg good responses. some things there is no way to get out of them. >> the friends of mitt romney at the national rev
joining me now john hiel man and krystal ball. when i see him out at hoover dam today, i think we are going to hear some sort of rachel like ode to hoover dam in the debate and the power of federal infrastructure spending and what it can do to this country and the economy. >> i think you're absolutely right. that is the core message. it's we're in it together versus you're on your own. and to that point, mitt romney still has never really come up with a coherent explanation, because there...
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congressman john garamendi joins us. stay with us. humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios . >> up next, the congressman from california joins me on the accusation that president obama has note been tough on china when it comes to trade. you can listen to my radio show on sirius 127 monday through friday and progressive talk stations from noon to 3:00 p.m. monday through friday. it's good i know when i'm working. follow me on twitter @edshow. i didn't think it was anything. i had pain in my abdomen... it just wouldn't go away. i was spotting, but i had already gone through menopause. these symptoms may be nothing... but
congressman john garamendi joins us. stay with us. humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and...
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. >> the key gridlock now is veteran members of the house democrats, like john larson and others, have told me they're not going to recover the house in november. that means eric cantor and john boehner are going to stop anything that obama is going to try to do if he gets elected for a second term. that's the key focus. obama is not running with the congressional democrats. he didn't even mention them in his speech in charlotte. this is a politically selfish campaign because he knows he can't get anything done unless the democrats -- >> i've got to let that -- i wish we could do the whole hour -- >> too simple, ralph. great ideas, but too simple. >> carl bernstein, rana, ralph nader, thanks for all of you. and we'll be right back 37. 7. . . >>> mitt romney isn't just reconsidering his comments about the 47%. he's also talking about the nation's top 1%. >> the rich in this country are actually doing better under president obama. the gap between the rich and the poor has gotten larger. the rich will probably do fine even if he's re-elected. >> joining me to talk about this ongoing fight
. >> the key gridlock now is veteran members of the house democrats, like john larson and others, have told me they're not going to recover the house in november. that means eric cantor and john boehner are going to stop anything that obama is going to try to do if he gets elected for a second term. that's the key focus. obama is not running with the congressional democrats. he didn't even mention them in his speech in charlotte. this is a politically selfish campaign because he knows he...
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>> this was john kerry today. bolder, declaring victory, relieving worried democrats. >> yesterday he showed me he's ready to leave this country. >> reporter: in pennsylvania today, the president tried to overcome doubts about his debate performance by swinging hard at his opponent. in a new line of attack, he failed to use last night but may wish he had, mr. bush accused senator kerry of more confusing contradictions on iraq after first voting to authorize the war. some bush supporters at today's rally expected more from the president last night. >> i think he could have been better in another type of format other than the debate. >> reporter: and the white house advisers were spinning a bush debate victory, they were on the defensive today about the president's demeanor last night. the television coverage, he appeared at times irritated, dismissive, frustrated by his challenger. >> he's always been a president and a person who wears his emotion on his sleeve. >> reporter: if some in the white house thought it wo
>> this was john kerry today. bolder, declaring victory, relieving worried democrats. >> yesterday he showed me he's ready to leave this country. >> reporter: in pennsylvania today, the president tried to overcome doubts about his debate performance by swinging hard at his opponent. in a new line of attack, he failed to use last night but may wish he had, mr. bush accused senator kerry of more confusing contradictions on iraq after first voting to authorize the war. some bush...
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your thoughts, john? what i like about it is it shows poverty and working poor, the working poor phenomenon in this country where you work very hard but don't make enough to live above the poverty level, is not an inner city situation alone. it creates a larger notion of another america out there that's much more diverse and much more realistic, i think. your thoughts, john. >> chris, i agree with that. i will also say there's nothing more powerful than a negative ad that uses nothing but the words from the person who -- out of the mouth of the person who the ad is attacking. you know, you think about the way that tina fey set up sarah palin on "saturday night live" four years ago by literally saying the things that she said in an interview with katie couric. those were her words. you didn't have to write a script. in this same case the 47% thing i think is devastating. and mark talked about the people -- we talk to people all the time who are doing focus groups on the republican side and democratic side.
your thoughts, john? what i like about it is it shows poverty and working poor, the working poor phenomenon in this country where you work very hard but don't make enough to live above the poverty level, is not an inner city situation alone. it creates a larger notion of another america out there that's much more diverse and much more realistic, i think. your thoughts, john. >> chris, i agree with that. i will also say there's nothing more powerful than a negative ad that uses nothing but...
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john nichols will join me. the candidacy of todd akin is a cancer on the gop's chances of taking over the senate. the very latest in this big senate race and other races. share your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter using the hash tag ed show. we are coming right back. back of my parents' medicine cabinet. finding bayer advanced was huge. i was really surprised by how well it worked. and i'd definitely use it again. put bayer advanced aspirin to the test for yourself at fastreliefchallenge.com. >>> it was really a bad week for mitt romney. he wanted to take some time and look for bright spots in the romney campaign. can we find them? maybe something can fire up romney's dejected supporters here. let's hear what the candidate himself had to say at a fund raiser in pa er ir in pennsylva. >> we would really shock people in early in the evening of november 6th it looked like pennsylvania was going to come our way and actually did come our way. and that can happen. that can happen. >> key word there was "s
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the "new york times" wrote it saying, quote, do exactly what john mccain would not let us do in 2008. the plans suggested hiring an extremely literate african-american to sell the message and label the president a metrosexual black abe lincoln. >> yeah. listen, i'm not sure exactly -- >> that's a halloween costume. >> i don't know what they mean by the last comment. but george will who i normally respect, this president has enjoyed the numbers that he is now and despite the rags initialized attacks. the reason this deck was disapproved by romney is because they don't need it. they've had the welfare ads and this strategy has been in place in other ways and it was exposed early enough so folks could see the inner workings behind back room door strategy sessions. >> well, it's playing into that stereotype. angry black man. i know some blacks that are angry that he's not more angry. >> how about that and happy birthday, rev. >> thank you. james peterson, ana marie cox, thank you for your time tonight. >> yep. and happy birthday. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, it all comes down to this. 1
the "new york times" wrote it saying, quote, do exactly what john mccain would not let us do in 2008. the plans suggested hiring an extremely literate african-american to sell the message and label the president a metrosexual black abe lincoln. >> yeah. listen, i'm not sure exactly -- >> that's a halloween costume. >> i don't know what they mean by the last comment. but george will who i normally respect, this president has enjoyed the numbers that he is now and...